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Forum : E-Bel News : Muzik Style Tree

ZARk [be]
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As was enunciated in the electrobel-v2 code specifications, the muzik styles/genres will bare a recursive tree structure.

As v2 was slightly rushed, and the style/genre new structure not considered robust enough, V2 was launched with the 1.5 version of the genres/styles.

Work was still being done on this structure, and seeing the recent events in the critics of musical genre choice (which have been a polemic since the launch of the v1 site), I spent a couple of hours to finish the new tree.

New Concept:

* Couple of Main Genres
* Many sub-genres
* a sub-genre can belong to more than one Genre.
* Selecting a genre will also show all songs belonging to a subgenre.
* Easily expandable, but admin/moderator only.
 
 
 
rule001 [be]
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Cool!!
Sound perfect!

WAY TO GO ZARK!!! ;)
 
 
 
ZARk [be]
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I started filling the tree, but it's far from complete.


Suggestions open.
 
 
 
cestqui [be]
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i can only speak for my styles were i'm a bit a home;

#house
-deephouse
-funkie-discohouse
-elektro house
-progressive
-tech house
-detroit

i think it schould be enuff for house,for 20 e-bel years,or did i forget anything

may be not so sure to put progressive in house,more like trance

#commercial
-dance
-trance
-progressive

will think about it,cause this was written in a hurry,anyone else can correct me,or better ideas,lets go

:D
 
 
 
rantferox [be]
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electro - oldschool electro - chiptune - electrobass - electropop - electroclash
techno - rave - acid - minimal - detroit - hardcore - gabber
ambient - electronica - idm - soundtrack
jungle - drum&bass - breakcore
house - acid - deep - electrohouse
breakbeat - triphop - downbeat
trance - goa - progressive - jumper
industrial - ebm - noise
hiphop - abstract hiphop
jazz - nu jazz -
rock - folk - pop
dub - reggae -
remixes - humour
disco - italo disco - disco house -
contemporary - experimental - crossover



first is main genre, then you have subdivisions
lets keep it > 10 sub-styles for each main genre
 
 
 
ZARk [be]
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hardcore & gabber in techno ?

idm and electronica in Ambient ?

triphop and downbeat in breakbeat ?

experimental in contemporary ?

not quite sure about those rantferox :)



cestqui : progressive trance and progressive house is the same thing ???
 
 
 
Distreality [be]
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Dub:
- roots dub
- hard stepping dub ( british style, like zion train/power steppers, etc...)

There is 1 point I find a bit difficult, and that's indus/electro...

Because the electro I like is stuff like wumpscut/front242,...wich have indus influence and ebm,...

So maybe indus:

- indus
- electro indus ( or indus electro )


electro : depending on the indus tree

- electro
- electro -wave
- electro-indus
- commercial electro ( electro-house,...), but put this here or in the house tree...?

So some little overlappings, but you can be the judge ....

 
 
 
ZARk [be]
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okay ...


"commercial" is not a musical style .. it's a state of mind :)

you can have commercial hiphop, commercial electro, commercial drum'n'bass etc..

F242 is EBM .. they invented the name of the genre ...
EBM is both under electro and industrial
 
 
 
Distreality [be]
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that's what I meant, so there's still room for some discussion there
so best under indus or electro or under both...?

 
 
 
rantferox [be]
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hardcore & gabber in techno ?

idm and electronica in Ambient ?

triphop and downbeat in breakbeat ?

experimental in contemporary ?

not quite sure about those rantferox :)



cestqui : progressive trance and progressive house is the same thing ???


1/ because its both 4/4 beats and comes from techno?
2/ its all coming from ambient, no? its the start of it all imo
3/ well its beats with breaks :biggrin:
4/ the true experimental music is comparable to contemporary imo but then its only my opinion, people use too fast the word experimental

off course its just a fast draft, to discuss
 
 
 
Akwalek [be]
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Like a real master he solved the problem...
Way to go man, thats why you run this shit i guess....

as for the genres:
a couple "less" known ones (wich i did NOT create myself, thx):

-Lo-fi Electro
-Minimal Pop
-Techdub
-Tech House
-Sad-Electronics
-Clicks'n Cuts
-Indietronic
-Microhouse
-Porn Groove
-Post Rock
-Noise
-Glitch
-Eurodisco
-Disco Nouveau
-Chill Out
-Chemical Beats
-Bossatronics
-...

iam sure i forgot a few...but this is a start i guess
:D sources are the unnameable number of netlabels around this earth nut ...

again, great idea....
 
 
 
ZARk [be]
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Lets say we'll create on a need-to-add basis.


so now it's more of a "lets join hands and create sub-genres for music already on the site"

 
 
 
rantferox [be]
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okay ...


"commercial" is not a musical style .. it's a state of mind :)

you can have commercial hiphop, commercial electro, commercial drum'n'bass etc..

F242 is EBM .. they invented the name of the genre ...
EBM is both under electro and industrial

id keep ebm under indus only, they both have more european influences than electro wich is more north american and hiphop influenced
for ex: ebm has 4/4 beats like indus, electro hasnt
 
 
 
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electro is a medium, not a style :D

 
 
 
Akwalek [be]
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k maybe i got alittle carried away here... but these are my favorite genres...
 
 
 
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-Lo-fi Electro => electro
-Minimal Pop => pop
-Techdub => techno
-Tech House => house
-Sad-Electronics => ambient
-Clicks'n Cuts => electronica
-Indietronic => indus
-Microhouse => house
-Porn Groove => house
-Post Rock => rock
-Noise => Noise
-Glitch => electronica
-Eurodisco => Dance
-Disco Nouveau => Dance
-Chill Out => ambient
-Chemical Beats => breakbeat
-Bossatronics => breakbeat
-...

drone => breakcore => breakbeat
bugcore => breakcore => breakbeat
post-electronica => electronica

and IDM = Electronica
 
 
 
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-Lo-fi Electro => electro
-Minimal Pop => pop
-Techdub => techno
-Tech House => house
-Sad-Electronics => ambient
-Clicks'n Cuts => electronica
-Indietronic => indus
-Microhouse => house
-Porn Groove => house
-Post Rock => rock
-Noise => Noise
-Glitch => electronica
-Eurodisco => Dance
-Disco Nouveau => Dance
-Chill Out => ambient
-Chemical Beats => breakbeat
-Bossatronics => breakbeat
-...

huh???
 
 
 
ZARk [be]
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Sam:

you can now specify subgenres in the Muzik browser :)

 
 
 
rantferox [be]
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-Lo-fi Electro => electro
-Minimal Pop => pop
-Techdub => techno
-Tech House => house
-Sad-Electronics => ambient
-Clicks'n Cuts => electronica
-Indietronic => indus
-Microhouse => house
-Porn Groove => house
-Post Rock => rock
-Noise => Noise
-Glitch => electronica
-Eurodisco => Dance
-Disco Nouveau => Dance
-Chill Out => ambient
-Chemical Beats => breakbeat
-Bossatronics => breakbeat
-...

huh???

seems on point to me
 
 
 
Distreality [be]
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id keep ebm under indus only, they both have more european influences than electro wich is more north american and hiphop influenced
for ex: ebm has 4/4 beats like indus, electro hasnt

I agree...this would solve a lot of issues concerning electro...


also maybe noise can be put as subgenre of indus...