Electrobel

i bought the nanopad and nanokontrol the ohter day, and found out that i had still 90euros left of my savings! so i decided to buy some low budget monitors.
at the musicstore website 2 pairs i noticed

The Samson MEDIA ONE 5A (PAIR) Active 20W Multimedia Monitor with 5-inch Woofer and 25mm Tweeter. Perfect for project studios, video production suites or for enhancing gaming and music experiences at a computer workstation.



Feature:
Precision-tuned, rear-vented enclosure
3-inch copolymer woofer
25mm silk dome high frequency driver
2 x 15 watts of Class A/B internal power
Front panel level control, headphones and stereo input jack
Convenient RCA inputs
Attractively finished in black satin vinyl covering
AV shielded for multimedia applications
Passive crossovers utilizing a multi-pole design for linear response from bottom to top
2 meter, 20-gauge speaker cable included



and the Behringer MS 20 Digital Monitor Speaker 2-Wege, 20w, 24bit DAC,

-active 2-way Studiomonitor, ideal for Computer-Studios, Audio-/Multimedia-Workstations and Keyboard-Monitoring. -integrated 2x10Watts amp with an enormous power reserve. -powerful woofer and high resolving tweeter providing a ultra-linear frequency. -ultra-high-resolving 24 BIT/192kHz D/A Converter providing high dynamik. -optical and coaxial inputs accepts almost every digital audio format. -2 analog inputs with 3,5mm stereo-jack and... respectively phono-leads can be used at the same time or can be mixed with any digital sound-source. -individual volume control for both inputs and EQ-control for Bass and Highs -headphone input(6,3mm Stereojack) with 'auto mute'-function which sits on the front in a good accessible position. -magnetic shielding for direct use next to screens. -high-class components and a extreme sturdy construction guarantees long durability. -developed by BEHRINGER, germany

I dont really know what the differance between the digital and the normal active monitors is, so i post this here :D

the ms20

and the mediaone

who can help with my decision :D my budget is around 100-120euro (with btw) so these were the only 2 i found

if there's one thing i wouldn't go low budget on, it has to be active monitor speakers. wait a couple of months and buy decent ones.

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Originally posted by : AnnoM

if there's one thing i wouldn't go low budget, it is active monitor speakers. wait a couple of months and buy decent ones.

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²nd that... you're better off with decent hifi speakers than with such low cost monitors. If you buy monitors, think >€500

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Originally posted by : bandarlog

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Originally posted by : AnnoM if there's one thing i wouldn't go low budget, it is active monitor speakers. wait a couple of months and buy decent ones.

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  ²nd that... you're better off with decent hifi speakers than with such low cost monitors. If you buy monitors, think >€500

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500€ the pair or each?

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Originally posted by : omihoshbin

500€ the pair or each?

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Each if you can afford. If you want to go (semi)-pro, no pair of monitors under 1000 is even mentioned in comparisons. I have a pair of alesis m1 mk2 for a couple of years now. They're ok but you're just producing blindfolded when it comes to everything under 100hz. Same goes for other cheap moni's. The cheaper you go, the more they lack in flat response.

what should one keep in mind when buying monitors?
i mean, watts, hertz's n shit ohm independancy......

Check out the Adam A7 for a very revealing but budget friendly speaker.  A little bass-light, but should be no problem at lower volumes. You could also add a sub at a later date to extend >the LF response.

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Originally posted by : bandarlog

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Originally posted by : omihoshbin 500€ the pair or each?

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     Each if you can afford. If you want to go (semi)-pro, no pair of monitors under 1000 is even mentioned in comparisons. I have a pair of alesis m1 mk2 for a couple of years now. They're ok but you're just producing blindfolded when it comes to everything under 100hz. Same goes for other cheap moni's. The cheaper you go, the more they lack in flat response.

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it's a bit exaggerated, my yamaha HS50 are good for 280 € pair http://www.musicstore.de:80/fr_FR/EUR/Yamaha-HS-50M-Studiomonitor-aktiv-5-Woofer/0-75-HT-45/25w/art-REC0004057-000  HS 80 are better but a bit expensive for me

Don't mind the watts or power when you have nearfields (= bedroom producersetting, moni's at 1.5m in a triangle from your ears).  Don't know much about technical details but I bet people like firefrog and others do.  I heard good things about working with (even low budget) moni's in combination with a mid priced subwoofer (subwoofer monitor is even better but those cost again >€700).  The everlasting rule is that you get to know your sound/room/monitors.




Check this thread:
forum.isratrance.com/the-mother-of-all-studio-monitor-threads

most of these guys know what they're talking about and are semi-pro.

i always wanted to have genelecs, but you'll pay for those. imo topnotch monis

the mackie hr 824 are very good, got no complaints about them

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Originally posted by : omihoshbin

i always wanted to have genelecs, but you'll pay for those. imo topnotch monis

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I have €750 now, €200 to go and these babies will be mine!

wauw i really cant afford things like that :D im just a poor student, unemployed, my mos with the ocmw and my dads on his pensioen :D

i really need a solution for now, im producing with two oversized 150 watt jbsystems tsx series, and a sennheizer hd 202 headphone for mastering :D need something cheap to overcross the time to save up for some decent equipment

Go 2nd hand for starters?

got a point there

or buy a studio headphone. it's something different, but with 150 - 200 euri you can buy a damn nice headphone. check out AKG. Monitors are better for mastering purposes, but as your budget is small, consider something else maybe.

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Originally posted by : AnnoM

or buy a studio headphone. it's something different, but with 150 - 200 euri you can buy a damn nice headphone. check out AKG. Monitors are better for mastering purposes, but as your budget is small, consider something else maybe.

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or... not.
mixing on headphones is not done. you have too much dynamic compared to a set of speakers. that's why a headphone-mix almost never sounds good on speakers.

for 200 euro you can't expect top notch, but if you go a bit higher (450 euro), you can get a pair of KRK's, yamaha's, ... and those do the trick really well.
as for genelec: you might wanna consider Dynaudio, because genelec is too precise compared to other speakers; you'll only hear your music like that on genelecs, which is not the purpose of monitors offcourse.

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grrr stupid font size! ill make sure you never work in this town again!!! :p:p

I Have the Mackie MR8 pair and they are bassy enough for me. You're first monitors shouldn't cost 1000 euro imho. You need years of training to benefit from those kind of monitors.