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reaman - house project

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i often get the comment i am always to modest but i guess this could end up on some of your desks (when it's finished and i have taken in consideration all your remarks)...if i'm mistaken please tell me so - i can handle criticism as long if it's constructive.

it is not so original but to me it sounds good and maybe for the first time...shaking ass!
btw: this is my 50th track on ebel so i got something to celebrate!!

please comment
this is not the final version

bassline, filtered synths, flutes and percussion are no preset loops. There's one existing drumloop hidden in the rythm section but i changed it (wave editing) too much
to call it a presetloop.

(if this should belong into techno section please tell me)

edit: read the comments to see what i changed to this version (v0.9)

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reaman [be] - 18 years ago

damn, the part with only percussion (around fourforty) doesn't sound like i would like it. It sounded otherwise through my headz.
 

Rabauw [be] - 18 years ago

Okay first up, that's a highly inventive bassline. To me this would definitely belong to the house section. The first part however is a bit generic, always the same filtered synths popping in and out.
But my man, do something about that flute. That's just horrible!!! Maybe it ain't clean enough, or put some more reverb to it, but I would definitely not use that flute in there. It's all to easy to understand where you got the idea from, and how you've interpreted house as a genre so far. In the light of that, your mission has failed.

The way I interpret the feeling of this track is, that you've limited yourself to what you've understood so far is "typical" for house. This will never do any good to one's creativity and musical development. I know you usually make music that comes from your own ideas and your heart.... Don't let yourself be restricted by vague, borderline definitions from other entities. Same thing happened 2000 years ago and look where it brought us today... Listen to yourself, and you'll make a house tune that's a lot better and diverse.

A plus for your original bassline though.

EDIT: btw I remembered this from your profile...
"When everything moves the same way, nothing really moves apparently."

Keep it in mind for your next house track.
 

reaman [be] - 18 years ago

nice comment
can live with that
 

Funky [be] - 18 years ago

Really nice overall groove to it! I like them deep synths!! ANd what Rabauw says bout the flute...I can follow... It felt kinda weird... But the the flute on itself didn't disturb me at all...more the melo's....

I have the feeling their should be more variations to it to make it even more attractive! I guess that's also one of the reasons why my latest house track isn't that liked... Anyhow.. I really dig your versatility! And you have some good ideas! Keep 'em comming!
Grtz
 

cestqui [be] - 18 years ago

here it is,in short;

i agree with rabouw(lol,nice comment)

and who to argue with the wizard >mr funky;

make the bazeline with a portamento 1;you should be able to give it more shake,with the lenghts of that bazeline,so its more latin;

the flute,sucks,hmmmm,notes,pitchcorrection can be better;

and sorry about the harsh mail,geus it aint a excuse that i mension,that just today the belgiumweather,made my medical instabilety unbareable,along with some e-bel issues;
sorry & greetz
 

GBS [be] - 18 years ago

congratulations with your 50th track man!!!long live reaman!!!Allah have mercy on your children!!!-enuff of that bullshit/
bass-guit intro is kinda long and...just too long-the sounds are just right and go together well,maybe it's just the question of how u mix'em all 2gether
 

reaman [be] - 18 years ago

ok..here it is...
dropped the flutes.. maybe rabauw was right
added some elements, changed the portamento of the bassline (cestqui),
made the intro shorter (GBS) ) - you we're right there too) and added some more variation (funky)

the new version should be available very soon (still have to upload it)

any, tomorrow's my birthday so this one's for you all and especially to Zark and all those who support me and like my music. You give me so much pleasure in life... you just can't imagine.

Erik
 

tomkurt [be] - 18 years ago

Nice track, although HOUSE isn't really my thing... But this one is alright.

and HAPPY birthday :-D

peace
 

Funky [be] - 18 years ago

Like the overal improvements you've mad! Something bothered me at the ending of minut 4... Something's wrong there, no? Or is this ment to be? Sounds somewhat offbeat... That bassline creates a special groove indeed, that goes very wel with those chords/pad... Keep going reaman! And allready a happy B-day man & best wishes and all that... Grtz
 

Rabauw [be] - 18 years ago

Ha, already a lot better, if only for the fact that the annoying flute has been put with the garbage :-). Give my rather negative first review, of course I wasn't expecting that this second version all of a sudden would've become a masterpiece. It's still too generic and hollow, but at least you've brought in some elements of your own, though of course the whole track still reeks of the spirit of a 'mustard shopper'. But this 2nd version should already provide you with a good basis to build upon for future house tracks. So buckle up and get it going, Sir! :D

Oh, and, happy birthday!
 

Elfish [be] - 18 years ago

eh i'll skip any mastering/composition remarks, just wanna say that the track is pretty amusing to listen ;)

the sounds at the end are nice and give the track a fresh touch, work it out!
 

reaman [be] - 18 years ago

sorry Rabauw - i honestly do not understand what you mean by a mustard shopper. If it means it sounds like music that could be made by anyone... it's what i interpret it for. If it's something else, could you please "define" a little? Thanks for commenting anyway - goes for everyone of you in fact! Thanks!!!

Please remark i never ever listen to house music myself (except for some artists mentioned on my ebel homepage - but that's no house. And there you got it right, Rabauw... it's house made by someone who's got some very narrowminded and restricted ideas by how it should sound like.
 

Rabauw [be] - 18 years ago

The 'mustard shopper' thingy was an allusion on "weten waar ge de mosterd moet halen" :-). What I meant to say was, that it's quite obvious you have as of yet only a good grasp of the basics of house, and that you've clearly used elements you've learned from other decent house productions. I'm not saying you have "stolen" ideas, not at all, but from a track like this one can easily tell that you haven't quite got a clue where you want to take it, or how you want to add a surplus value to the genre as a whole. Like you said yourself in your post here above "...restricted ideas how it SHOULD sound like". No one or no influenec should tell you how a track has to sound. It is in fact only the basics that define the genre, for the complete story or arrangement only YOU should decide how you develop it. Goes for every genre, e.g. how heavily distorted guitars make a song fit in with "metal", but that's only the start, and you can make twists and turns with whatever sound or instrument to try and bring something fresh to the genre.

Even if you have only a slight idea of house as a whole, you can still try to grow into something big. Just ask yourself, what have I learned so far? And how can I develop that from my own visions.
 

Carbura [be] - 18 years ago

I must have missed something. Reaman, this song really knocks me down! First of all I never expected this from you! You've done something I'm unable to do lately; take a step into the dark and follow your.......whatever guides you on your way. This is really funky shit! I should take more time to listen to other tracks on e-bel! (not much time)

Congratz on this one. ++++
 

intertec [be] - 18 years ago

this is groovy, i like it
i liek the smooth lea/pad sound, a bit gated
 
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